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-wise and the s&p is down 3.33 at 1423. five days left until the fiscal cliff deadline, and though the market has been very resilient to this point, what happens if we go over the cliff and if lawmakers cannot get it together come january 1st? will it be a big meltdown for wall street? that's what everybody wants to know. >> certainly hope know. in today's "closing bell" exchange, former chief economist of the vice president joe biden, oliver perch from gary goldberg and matt cheslock and rick santelli, thank you very much. jarred, you wrote an article called "cliff dive, what the heck happens next?" what does happen next? >> well, that's actually all up to john boehner, as i see it, because if we were to decide to bring the president's most recent small car compromise to the house i actually believe it would pass. the problem for him it would probably pass with mostly democrat vote, but i think it could get through the senate. that's the only scenario i see by which we avoid going over the cliff. >> wait a minute. >> at least temporarily. >> wait a minute, jared. john boehner said it's up to the
, but with new year's just a few days away a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff may come down to the wire. president obama spent part of this christmas greeting troops and how why he. >> not only do we have the finest military in the world -- >> but tonight he will leave the state for washington, and a state of gridlock, calls it -- as they struggle to come to a compromise to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts. members of both the house and senate are also heading back to capitol hill tomorrow. after the holiday break the president hopes will provide perspective. >> everybody can cool off, everybody can drink some eggnog and have some christmas cookies. >> and return to washington after speaker john boehner failed to get enough support for muslim party for a plan b that the bill that would raise taxes for those making more than a million dollars a year. >> what the president has offered so far simply would not do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address the nation's crippling debt. >> so are still a stalemate. with the january 1 deadline quickly approaching, some were very we might
." >>> coming up at the top of this hour, forget the fiscal cliff. we are staring down the barrel of a container cliff as unions are threatening to shut down ports along the eastern seaboard. also, we peer in netflix's christmas eve outage. what does it mean for the company, for the stock? and what did it mean for movie theaters that evening? also, herbalife is getting legal muscle to combat bill ackman's short posture against the company. the question is whether or not it's going to come to reinvestors. i'm down here at the stock exchange. back to you. >> lovely to see you, as ever. thank you very much. >>> gold trading close. we showed you a few moments ago t goldman sachs commodity index barely hanging on to gains this year despite a lot of losing bets, investors are still pumping billions into the sector. jackie deangelis is looking at the winners and losers. >> good afternoon. what we have seen a bit of a correction in commodities. if the index ends the year a little lower, it will be the first decline we've seen since 2008. but you're right, the commodities saw a lot of interest this year.
of the fiscal cliff or do you think the doubt around reaching a negotiation is impacting holiday spending this season? did that damper sales by any chance? >> yeah, there's a -- there's a correlation here. beginning of december when we start to see sales come down, the confidence numbers also start to come down. it's something that the media coverage really has brought home and really clarified what the fiscal cliff means to personal finance. and that debate really seems to be acting as -- almost creating a sense of gravity that's pulling down different elements of the economy. so whether it's consumer confidence and now spending, both seem to be having a negative impact on the environment. >> yeah. michael, i imagine it's difficult to get out and want to spend when you're worried about your taxes going up next year. and how you're going to allocate your budget. i want to ask about some of the places that we did see spending. what were some of the segment groups? was it apparel, electronics? you know, luxury has surprisingly held up a little bit. so where did we see the dollars that were
on the fiscal cliff. >>> and why are movies so long? >>> a look at the world's longest high speed train. good morning to you. i'm richard lui. christmas was anything but merry for residents of the deep south, where a winter storm packed a dangerous deadly punch. at least three deaths are being blamed on a severe weather system that spawned tornadoes in four states and dumped snow as far south as texas. the latest from alabama. >> reporter: oh, wow. oh, jesus, look at that tornado. >> reporter: in mobile, alabama, a christmas surprise no one wished for. a tornado caught on video as it touched down right this city center. emergency management officials say the twister left lots of damage in its wake blowing out first and second floor windows at the mobile infirmary medical center and the roof at the high school. so far no injuries or death, but wit trees and power lines down tens of thousands are without electricity. one store sent customers scrambling for cover. >> one customer looked out the window and said there's actually a tornado coming. i looked out and you could see the sparks flying an
. >> is the country goes over the fiscal cliff, some economists fear the combination of budget cuts and higher taxes could trigger another recession. others say the deadline is not as firm. congress could pass a temporary measure early that would roll back any changes. political analysts warn some consequences may be immediate. >> maybe a tremendous response and that would alarm everybody. >> stock prices dropped friday after a republican-led plan collapsed. nearly half of americans are doubtful the two sides can settle their differences. >> when the uncertain. tax rates will go up on 30 million households at least. that is something the politicians are going to respond to. >> house republican leaders called on the senate to pass to bills they said would avoid the fiscal cliff. republicans said the lines of communication are still open but the house will not act until the democratically controlled senate does. >> at the maryland due in baltimore, the african lions were not in their native habitat because it was snowing. the weather was so bad that these do closed -- the zoo closed for the day. the s
and higher. why? this fiscal cliff, i think we will see a large one-day move coming out of this. up or down. i think that price that the auction players play with setup for one big move and a whole lot of slowness. the asset you are seeing people go for our insurance product. gold is a week dollar play. all of the asset spectators thae are doubling and we will print money. that is why the gold has had such a run-up. shibani: i like this idea and i want to push you on this idea of one big move to the upside, to the downside. what will be the catalyst in what range are you talking about? a 10% move, 20% move, somewhere lower? give me a sense of the range. >> the pop higher is larger than the pop lower. i think pricing for about 30-35 handle move on a rally and possibly a drop if we sell off. we have no deal done, maybe lower, on the upside trouble trd break 1450-1460. we have seen some damage done in the near term and truthfully we would need a secondary catalyst to get us through the 1500 level especially if dividends taxes go higher, which i think is something that will happen. david: worst
on the so-called fiscal cliff. >>> and christmas around the country. why are movies so long. and the long high heft speed train 2. "early today" starts now. >> announcer: this is "early today" for wednesday, december 26ing, 2012. >>> and a very good morning to you, i'm richard lui. christmas was anything but merry on wednesday. at least three deaths are blamed on a weather storm that spawns tornadoes in four states and dumped snow as far as texas. nbc's chris pallone has the latest from alabama. >> oh, wow, oh, jesus, look at that tornado. >> reporter: in mobile, alabama, a christmas surprise no one wished for. a tornado that touched down right near the emergency center. the twister left lots of damage at its waking blowing out first and second floor floor windows. and tearing off the roof at the high school. with trees and power lines down, tens of thousands are without electricity. the storm sent people scrambling for cover. >> one of the customers looked out the window, and he said there's a tornado coming. i looked out and saw the sparks, the debris, i got everybody, seven customers,
. this is in the discussions with the whole fiscal cliff debate and you know, people are pushing rates down. they're still picking up paper. they still think it is the safest investment with all the uncertainty out there. there is the long bond yielding 2.93%. we're back after this >> i'm dennis kneale with your fox business brief. it is another down day for the marquette as washington prepares for another round of fiscal cliff dealing tomorrow. right now the dow down 33 points at 1,105. >>> the u.s. government may reportedly expand its mortgage refinancing program to include borrowers to include mortgages not backed by freddie mac and fannie mae. the "wall street journal" reporting that the refi program under consideration could consider underwater borrowers who owe more than they're worth. that is about 11 million homes. >>> toyota could overtake general motors and reclaim the title of the world's biggest carmaker for 2012. the japanese automaker estimate worldwide sales are up 22% this year from 2011 when a massive earthquake and tsunami and severe floods in thailand disrupted parts supplies and sales.
as washington prepares for another round of fiscal cliff wheeling and dealing. dow jones down 50 points. cablevision filed a lawsuit in the supreme court against the communications workers of america for making false claims about its internet service and britain alleging that district 1 and local 1109 engage in an unlawful campaign to suspend cablevision and its business and the ipad mini is fresh off of manufacturing line but reports of a new ipad are already circulating. you must be wondering what another ipad offer that is new. it will look like a mini in terms of design and will be fair, narrower and shorter. that is the latest from the fox business network giving you the power to prosper. question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approv to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needingo go frequently or urgely. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexu
president obama says we're going off the fiscal cliff. we go off the cliff. tax cuts expire, sequestration, they kick it down the road. if president obama then says i'm going to put in tax cuts for anyone making under $250,000 a year. i'm going to call them obama tax cuts. will runs say no to voting for a tax cut? >> well, the interesting question is of course what this comes with. we're at the beginning of a conversation not at the end of a conversation. because we have to decide what to do with the bush tax cuts. that's one thing. we have to decide to do -- what to do with a trillion dollar of obamacare tax increases. very few people are talking about this but there's a trillion dollars of tax increases obamand ad demonstration passed before the last election and 90% of those hikes were delayed until after the president got himself reelected. then we have massive spending, $8 trillion in debt that obama's running up the next decade. republicans have several tools. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the ide
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cliff compromise is likely, down nine points from earlier this month. ♪ [ woman ] ♪ what i want this season ♪ if you'd like to try and guess ♪ ♪ it is something very special ♪ i would readily confess [ dogs barking ] ♪ 'cause all i want this season ♪ ♪ is something from your heart ♪ la da da, la da da [ male announcer ] thinking of others this holiday season, travelers. >>> some gun owners in the new york city area say they are being unfairly targeted and they're blaming a local newspaper. here's why. "the journal news" published an interactive map on its website showing the names and addresses of all handgun permit owners in westchester and rockland counties. you can see them here represented by red dots. the response has been overwhelmingly angry. and some residents who don't have guns say it lets potential robbers know who isn't armed. "the journal news" says it made the decision to put up the map in response to the connecticut school massacre. >>> if you live in los angeles and own a gun, today is the day to exchange it for a gift card. the buyback is being c
. there are only three trading days left now for 2012 and still no deal to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. all signs are pointing to more talks for lawmakers to try to hash things out. should wall street bet on a fix before january the 1st or is that wishful thinking? >> let's find out. let's speak to our guests. welcome to all of you. brian, where do you make of where we're going right now? you're the one that remains sort of neutral. you're buying this market right now, aren't you? >> well, we're pretty much staying put. we're recommending that our clients have a substantial allocation to equities. i mean, bear in mind, it's been a pretty good year despite it being an election year, despite the fiscal cliff and ongoing problems in europe. the market has done better than it has usual done. what's changed? i think there will be continued political turmoil and slow growth but that's, particularly given valuations, may not be a bad year for equities as all. >> i'm going to add to that list having been a good year for the stock market. also had a lot of recovery in the housing market as well. do
't understand that would ever happens with the fiscal cliff, people down here will survive. the republicans, this will definitely affect them in the future. i talked to people all over boston every day. nobody wants to vote for republicans anymore, because of the fact that they don't seem to care about people that struggle everyday. it's the people that have money but don't care about people who don't have money. it's been like that for hundreds of years. it's time for change. we have a democrat in the chair. the republicans had their chance when they had pushed. there's a lot of things that should be changed in this world. we rant on about the economics, but we should be worrying about the pollution. without the planet, there's no economics. the focus should be more about our planet right now with the seasons changing at different times of year. i think the focus should be more on the planet and not who has the money and who is gone to cut taxes. without the planet, we have nothing. guest: you have raised two issues. we should emphasize the in burma and the fact that we have a democratic p
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, weakness on the retail sector and worries over the fiscal cliff keeping low. s and p and nasdaq also in the red. >>> today's price report shows average home prices up more than 4% in the 20 largest markets, prices here in the san francisco bay area are up even more. prices jumped 8.9% in october compared to the same time the year before. they increased .7% froms. that bucked the national trend where values dipped compared to september. >>> today on the news at five the latest on that body found in santa rosa, also the weather remaining an issue for parts of the bay area though the storms have moved out. and a look at the trouble spots and in the sierra where a storm warning is in effect for the rest of the day and there are concerns up there about some avalanches. thank you for trusting us. we will see you the next time news breaks, also always here  at ktvu.com and mobile ktvu. have a great afternoon everybody. [ female announcer ] now get high speed internet at home on our newly expanded advanced digital network, a connection you can count on. introducing at&t u-verse high speed
to mess up of fiscal cliff negotiations worse than they are. tim geithner in the middle of those talks so we don't expect that move. the defense department, leon panetta likely to step down. chuck hagel has been the leading contender we're told but now is running into interference from groups, including chuck schumer, who is expressing concern and former republican senator is the right guy. this is playing out like the susan rice situation, the u.n. embassador who never got nominated but there was criticism to the president pulled it back. john kerry getting that nomination. there's frustration among the president's supporters that he's leaving names out and not moving ahead but the fiscal cliff negotiations are dominating his time. >> the fiscal cliff and diamond head in the background and waikiki beach. ed, safe trip home. >>> joining us, from u.s. news and world report, ken walsh. who is going to come to the rescue, anybody? >> looks like there's a road block at every critical juncture point here. it looks like now the ball's in the senate's court, to mix met force. the house failed to
, part of the fiscal cliff, doctors who serve medicare patients will see their payments go down something like 27%. i mean, this is one of those crazy time bombs that's in the tax code. that's patched every year. same thing with the amt. as i just mentioned, while the other tax measures, taxpayers won't see them until they fill out the 2013 tax bill in april of 2014, the amt patch will hit much more quickly than that. that's something needing to be patched as of early -- if we go over, needs to be patched quickly. >> let's talk about that word, sequestration and there's a lot of concern about the defense cuts and the defense department, how to deal with it. leon panetta toning down the remarks saying that they would not necessarily require immediate action and could eventually mean furloughs down the road and looking at january and the cuts divided by ten years and 12 months, talking 50 billion, 60 billion in january. >> right. it's 110 billion for the year of 2013 in automatic spending cuts divided equally between defense and nondefense. on the nonentitlement or discretionary side of bud
are swinging between gains and losses. we have five days left before the fiscal cliff. washington preparing for another round of wheeling and dealing tomorrow. right now the dow was trying to find direction, down this .10 points. a downturn after being ordered to pay nearly $1.2 billion in damage in a patent infringement lawsuit. sued for infringing patents related to data storage technology. edmunds.com predicting new car sales will slow in the new year but still plenty of optimism in the auto industry. consumers will continue to benefit from new models, new technology potentially lower prices as automakers continue to fight for market share. we continue "countdown to the closing bell" with ashley webster. ashley: let's go to nicole petallides at the floor of the new york stock exchange. shares of rim, research in motion. rim it is for real. shares of research in motion. research in motion has been beaten down the past couple of sessions. concerns of a new structure put in effect, and what they were going to do is use a tear factor, those tiers, is unclears unclear how they were going to b
. >> thank you. >>> there's more urgency in washington to get a deal done before the so-called "fiscal cliff" deadline less than a week from now. senate majority leader harry reid was reportedly at the capital on christmas working on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all about the wealthiest americans. his plan would include short term spending cuts instead of long-term deals that had been sought. >>> from hawaii. comes word that president obama will cut short vacation and return to washington later today to take part in "fiscal cliff" negotiations. christmas day the president and first lady met with servicemembers and their families. the president told the marines he was grateful for their service and posed pour pictures. >>> recent college graduates are having a tough time getting jobs in their desired lines of work. according to the latest u.s. census figures about 2 60,000 young adults with college degrees in california are working in food service and retail. >> couldn't get a job in the field that i wanted to so i figured i have to start at the bottom. >> without higher paying j
outspoken. we sat down earlier this month to talk about the fiscal cliff and the risks to u.s. businesses, to the world economy and to the average u.s. citizen if we don't have a deal, if we don't get it done. i want you to take a listen to what he fold me. >> the real difference today versus perhaps any other time in history is that this single issue has a seismic effect on the rest of the world, that we have never been as connected and the domino effect of a bad outcome here will have significant negative consequences domestically and around the world. not the least of which will be the level -- fracturing of confidence in the united states of america. >> seismic and significant. very powerful words. how could this play out for americans if we don't have a deal? what will that feel like to them, howard? >> i think there will be tremendous personal pressure on people who are going to see their daily lives affected in ways that are hard to fathom, hard to calculate and hard to understand. and that's why i think this is so critical. coupled with the fact that this will have a significant a
but it is starting to get busy in the southbound lanes heading down towards hayward. much more traffic and weather together every 10 minutes. back to you guys. >> thank you. >>> we're less than a week away from the "fiscal cliff" and it turns out not every lawmaker left for the holiday. senate majority leader harry reid had worked on christmas at the capital on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all but the wealthiest americans. his plan would also include short term spending cuts instead of long term deals that had been sought. >>> president obama will cut his hawaiian vacation short today and return to washington to take part in "fiscal cliff" negotiations. >>> holiday sales grew at a weak pace this year. the weakest in four years. mastercard advisors spending pulse reports that sales in the two months before christmas increased .7% over last year. a lot of analysts expected sales to be up 3 or 4%. but wait, there is more. when i worked in retail when i was in college, christmas was busy enough. but the day after christmas? it was unbelievable! cbs 5 reporter cate caugiran is in san leand
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would happen to the government if we go off the fiscal cliff? >> sure, well, it's anyone's guess, but i think we will see economic activity slow down, david. i think we're going to see with the certainty of tax rates raising on all of us, that people contract their economic activity and given the cbo estimate, if we go into a recession, i think it will be cataclysmic for the american economy. david: specifically with the government, i remember during the clinton years when we had that debt ceiling thing that we went off of and that the government shut down -- would we see a shutdown in certain government agencies if we go off the cliff? >> i'm not sure we're going to see a shutdown, but we will certainly see a lot less economic activity, and particularly in the military sector, i think defense procurement will ground to a halt, and that will have, again, an impact on the economy and it will be deleterious. david: let's talk about the politics of some of this. >> sure. david: nancy pelosi -- i very rarely agree with her as you well know. >> i do know. david: but she said something i kind
on everyone immediately. if washington can't come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> you have less money in a difficult economy with little clarity. >> the economy will go down sharply. >> look at the number from the tax policy center. this is the average tax hit the families take on top of what they pay on taxes. those make between $40,000 and $50,000 pay extra $1700. >> if you manage to make over $200,000, it will be a big jump up. you will need to send a check to uncle sam for $14,000 initial dollars. $500,000 to $1 million pays $34,000 more. they want $215,000 on top of what you pay in taxes. >> the wealth manager says the money you have left won't go as far as businesses also deal with their own tax hikes. >> you are going to see less money in your paycheck. >> the government has to bite the bullet with $1.2 trillion in spending cuts. more than half of that is to the defense budget. >> they say families may need austerity calculation before making big purchases. look at the money you have and the money you need in the future to decide if you need the next big picture. doug? >> doug:
as we near this so-called fiscal cliff. >>> first, a tornado. now a blizzard warning. we'll break down the complex weather forecast next as part of the south starts to clean up after yesterday's storms. >> it is a wonderful school. i don't know what we're going to do with the kids when it is time to come back. this is a dangerous situation with all the roofs off, and the windows blown out. this is just devastating. can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. hurry. bonus cash ends january 2nd. >>> if you're not dealing with weather issues now, count yourself as one of the lucky people in the country. this is indianapolis. you can see icy, snowy roads, fortunately not many people on them right now. but they have been dealing with some serious weather there. this is detroit. foggy, snow there, ice as well. it has been a difficult tra
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website, cbssf.com/weather. >>> well, we're less than a week away from the so-called "fiscal cliff." the pressure is increasing in washington. senate majority leader harry reid was reportedly on capitol hill at christmas working on a scaled-down plan to avoid tax hikes for all but the wealthiest americans. his plan would also include short-term spending cuts instead of long-term deals that have been sought. president obama will cut short his hawaiian vacation around return to washington today to take part in those negotiations. christmas day the president and first lady met with servicemembers and families. the president told marines he was grateful for their service and posed for pictures. >>> more bay area headlines. one of santa's helpers put in a little overtime on christmas but instead of a sleigh and reindeer, san jose postal worker nancy ray used this a mail truck. ray is carrying on a decades old tradition of delivering packages to people on christmas. this is the third year ray has put her sant suit. she started working in the san jose post office 20 years ago and said thi
financial moves you should make before the end of the year with the fiscal cliff looming, there are ways to save yourself money down the road. jean chatzky is "today's" financial editor. good morning, jean. >> nice to see you. >> this has real world impact on people watching the show, people across the country. >> absolutely. >> let's talk about a few of those. a lot of business owners like to defer some of their income to pay tax in the next year. you say maybe pay now. >> maybe pay now. what we don't know is where taxes are going. we know they're probably going up. if you can pay taxes on income that's owed to you this year rather than next year you're generally going to make out, which means working the phones, calling people and saying, hey, if you could pay me in the next couple of days, that would be awesome. >> what if the payroll tax goes up next year, how do you handle that now? >> wherever the deal falls on the fiscal cliff, it looks like the payroll tax is going up. that will mean about $1,000 in additional taxes, 75% of americans get tax refunds. if you're one of them, adjust
cliff. deal likely at 50%, deal not likely at 48%. and this is gone down continually as we have seen, lynn, over several days, whether more optimism before the christmas holiday and continues to evaporate the closer to the cliff but talking about what the president can do coming back, can it about a small stop gap measure to save people after the 1st? >> it could be and i've always thought that the they know if they don't at least do a stop gap which is in their power, therefore, they would probably do it. it means that the december deadline, december 31 deadline that's looming may not really be the deadline. i think it's more like january 3rd, noon, when the new congress is sworn in. that's when they have to do their math to see where do they have -- if there's any hope of a deal, a democratic deal, where you need 20, 30 min votes or true bipartisan deal and no one thinks will happen. now people are just working some numbers to see which would work best if you don't get anything by the end of the year. >> alice, based off what lynn is saying, making this the 113th congress's problem
in the next four days. as we speed toward the fiscal cliff, that is the last thing businesses nationwide need to threaten their bottom lines. here to explain what is at stake, jonathan gold, vice president of the national retail federation. thanks for joining us. last time we faced something like this, 2002, it took six months for u.s. economy to recover. the ports on the west coast were only closed for 10 is that accurate? >> adam, thanks very much for having me on. yes, the last time we had coast wide shut down was 2002. there was 10-day lockout. took six months to recover from. most economists say that lockout cost the u.s. economy about a billion dollars a day. adam: the number is anywhere 14 to 15,000 longshoremen essentially from portland, maine, down to houston. what does that mean to the u.s. economy? seems we're talking about far more ports than we were in 2002? >> correct, it could be a fairly significant hit on the u.s. economy. everybody who relies on ports, importers, exporters, manufacturers, farmers, agricultural exporters, trucking companies, all these industries rely on ports
are now just days away. and the one thing that we off forget, this fiscal cliff, this isn't some small cliff we're talking about. this is like road runner, wylie coyote way off that cliff. you come off that cliff, it is a long way down. there are serious consequences for all of us. >> spending cuts, taxes raised across the board. and the president was hoping that everyone could cool off, drink of eggnog, spend time with the family and when you get back to washington on thursday, let's hammer it out. but a lot of people are saying it doesn't look like it may happen at all. >> a lot of people will be celebrating on new years. when we wake up january 1, there might be a lot of upset people. >>> in other very important news, perhaps the most important news of the night, trenton, ladies and gentlemen, remains in the hands of the hessians. yeah, george washington didn't cross the delaware this morning with his troops on christmas day. no, this is not historical footage. the annual re-enactment takes place -- or is supposed to take place yesterday didn't happen because the weather made the co
today. >>> only six days until the fiscal cliff. president obama is expected to cut short his vacation today and head back to washington to meet with republicans. >>> farmers worry about drought, insects, and disease. right now some say the biggest threat to their livelihood is congress. the fight in d.c. over the fiscal cliff is leaving the future uncertain for one law, and farmers depend on that law. >> reporter: eagle lake, texas, depends on rice. it's been grown here since the 1800s. drought is usually the biggest threat, but the nervous talk in the drugstore now is about congress. >> without the farm bill, it really makes it uncertain for what you should do next year. >> reporter: steve is a pharmacist here and a rice farmer. >> people are nervous. >> very nervous. >> what are they saying when they're coming in? what are you hearing? >> what do we do? they don't know what to do. it's so uncertain right now that the banks don't know what to do, the farmers don't know what to do. they're out there plowing the land, getting it all prepared for next year with total uncertainty. >> rep
with the reduced expectations of reform attached to the solution of the fiscal cliff, do you still feel the same way? >> rick, our cycle studies are pointing down pretty heavily right now, so no matter what happens, i look for a selloff of some sort. i think we may get some silly, small deal done which won't make any difference long term. we need to go over the cliff. we have to go over the cliff to get the real reform done early next year. if we don't get reform done early next year, it's going to be bad because consumers will stop spending and they are 70% of the u.s.gdp. they're 15% of the worldwide gdp. we have the cliff and it's not resolved pretty quickly in a real meaningful way, it will put the world in a recession in my opinion. >> now, harry -- you are pretty much talking about the equities. let's change gears a little bit. let's go to the fixed income market. do you suspect on some type of solution to the fiscal cliff, albeit a very much smaller, reduced type package, that the markets whether we're talking corporate bonds, junk bonds, treasuries, do you think they'll have any sizeable
cliff, especially with the main sticking point coming down to whether to increase taxes for top earners next year among many other things. byron york, now, of "the washington examiner" joins us to talk about this. good morning, byron. >> good morning, patti ann. patti ann: so we're going to show a full scream of what would happen if -- full screen of what would happen if we go off that fiscal cliff. but you got democrats, including congressman john yarmouth of kentucky, saying, look, we may go off that cliff on january 1st, but we would creak it very quickly -- correct it very quickly thereafter, so do you believe that's the democratic plan? enter yes, and it's a republican nightmare. republicans have been reached no deal's reached, barack obama and democrats immediately propose to relower the tax rates to bush levels for all but the top 2%, and republicans find themselves opposing it on behalf of their millionaire friends will be the democratic charge. so that's kind of a nightmare scenario for democrats, and it's why you saw john boehner, speaker of the house, offer to raise taxes on
but those are expected to be good. trading volume is still light but the fiscal cliff deadline still approaches. >>> she saved two girls and now some positive news for the hero dog, how her health has improved. >>> and more from the tsunami, the washington shore and we have some concerns about it. >>> and you will wake up while you were sleeping it was sent straight to you and you can get your morning wake-up call by texting 70123. . >>> well check out this boat, it is believed to have washed out to sea during the japanese tsunami. it washed ashore and crabs and mussels also showed up and it's concerned it could hurt native species. they will contact the consulate and they will find out if the owner still wants to claim it. >>> survivors held prayer services across thailand to remember the victims of the earthquake and tsunami. tsunamis tore through 14 countries and 20 14,000 people have lost their lives. >>> it has become a huge shopping day similar to black friday here in the united states. and the malls in england and canada are already packed with shoppers. it is a national shopp
anything to avoid the fiscal cliff. what do you think's going to happen? >> well, i thought luke took us eloquently through all the scenarios. but to me this is all simple. it really comes down to this. is john boehner willing to introduce a compromise plan in the house of the type the president offered before he left? extend the tax cuts only for the 250 and below. you kick the sequester down the road, you patch the amt and medicare fix. all that. if the speaker is willing to put that to a vote, i suspect it would pass in the house and we actually could have a compromise before the end of the year. but it would pass with mostly democratic votes. and the likelihood he's going to want to do that seems to me very slim. that's why i think we're probably going over the cliff. now, my hope is that it's more of a bungee jump than a cliff dive. because on the other side there's some dynamics that change such that republicans can vote for a big tax decrease off of what will then be current law. >> jared, you've got a post -- i just want to go back for a moment. while this ping-pong game is going
though we have the report that showed the home price index better than expected. this fiscal cliff is still making traders nervous. >>> this may turn out to be a disappointing season for retailers. any new report shows retail sales are up just 7 tenths of one percent from last year. that's after early predictions said they would jump 3%. the lower figure would mean this was the weakest growth for november and december retail sales since the recession started back in 2008. >>> netflix said its systems all back up and running normally. that's after an outage that started christmas e version e and ran through christmas morning and it kept many customers using the video streaming service. netflix said the problem started with amazon's wireless service but what happened is still under investigation. this is though the third time this year that the service has interfered netflix. >>> the reare financing program could expand. the expansion would include borrowers whose mortgages aren't currently backed by fannie play or freddie mac. adds those who have under water mortgaged could also be
. >>> aloha means good-bye. president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will ge
. the fiscal cliff might seem extremely large right now. we look at the more long-term view, a small blip on the overall screen. we'll see a lot of volatility but can you deal with the volatility and if it's causing to you lose sleep it might have an indication you might want to make some changes. >> it's hard not to have a knee-jerk reaction. before we get to that talk about tax deferred accounts. how will the fiscal cliff affect them. >> this is the beautiful part about this is that the biggest concern individuals are having that we've worked with and talking to, what is going to happen with my taxes? what is going to happen with my dividends taxes, capital gains? so the best part about it, if you're dealing with non-qualified accounts you might have to be concerned about that but qualified accounts or tax deferred accounts such as your 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts, roth and traditional, these accounts are tax deferred and many 509 plans, college savings plans, different types of concept are tax deferred and some are tax free such as 529 so maximize this and eliminates the
in the fiscal cliff. in a letter to starbucks employees made public this morning, chief executive howard schuyltz x employees at d.c. area stores to write "come together" on the cups when serving customers tomorrow and friday. starbucks plans to buy as in washington post and the new york times later in the week. >> will be right back. >> welcome back it is 9:15 a.m.. we have been down in the last hour. the dow is off by 45 points. >> the other numbers that we are following is the weather. we do keep track in the weather. this morning you do need chains to get over to the sierra. a lot of people are heading out and you can see that the wind is blowing snow. they already have a good amount of snow. when she did up there will be great spirit they also have the avalanche warnings that are expiring it has been very dangerous and they want to warn you off that you should always travel with a partner and with chains. you should let someone know where you are at all times. >> you can really enjoy the weather. >> when you look at the shots look at this know that is falling. it is covering the rol
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